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Reverse Engineer

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On Losing the Diner
« on: June 04, 2015, 05:46:24 am »
It is Thursday Morning June 4, 2015, 2AM AK Time.

As of right now, all the material on the Doomstead Diner, thousands of pages put up by myself and other Diners is currently lost and inaccessible on the web.

There is apparently now a problem with MySQL on our server host  the Code Jockeys are working to fix, and hopefully they will succeed.

Doomer Support took a backup copy of the Diner yesterday, so hopefully the material will all be retrieved at some future date on some server.

However, I have have always known this is all time limited, and really about nobody goes back and looks at archives in a Blog anyhow.  What you write on a Blog only lasts a few days to a month before nobody ever reads it again.

So if it all is gone for good, so be it.  Some people read the stuff when it was fresh and first came off my keyboard.  That is good enough.

In terms of keeping the Doomstead Diner going, I will give it a week or so, and if the Code Jockeys at ASO and Doomer Support cannot resurect the Diner, then I will simply start over, first here and then with a Blogspot or free WP Blog, and point the DoomsteadDiner.net and DoomsteadDiner.com this way.

I'm not going to quit writing about collapse on the net until I croak.  I'm not going to quit ranting either, and at least last I checked Diner Soundcoud was still running.  If/When it collapses, I'll find other free cloud storage for mp3s and drop them on there.

Today's project will be setting up a new Doomstead Diner Beta Blog on Blogspot or Wordpress.  I won't switch the URL pointer to that for at least a week or so.  I think Doomer Support and the Code Jockeys at ASO will get this fixed here, so I'm not going to prematurely jump the gun and flip the switch over on the URL yet.

No matter what occurs here, the Doomstead Diner has been a Great Adventure for me over these last few years, and I do know that what I wrote reached many people.  That is good enough.  The internet will not last forever, probably not more than another 20 years IMHO.  About Nobody goes back to read the old stuff anyhow.  What I wrote, what I thought does exist somewhere, and will for all eternity.  It cannot be destroyed, it cannot be hacked.

Tomorrow is another day I will carry on here, and spend my day chatting with support to fix the Diner.  I am not worried about this though one way or the other.  I will keep writing and ranting no matter what until I Buy My Ticket to the Great BeyondTM.

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Surly1

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Re: On Losing the Diner
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2015, 06:05:24 am »
Not to worry or obsess. To the extent that problems can be defined, they can be solved.

I still have the malicious overwrite of the ht. access thingie lodged in my brain. Specifically, how did it get there and where did it come from?
Just a hunch, but that could be the string that unravels the whole sweater.

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Re: On Losing the Diner
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2015, 03:04:29 pm »
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I still have the malicious overwrite of the ht. access thingie lodged in my brain. Specifically, how did it get there and where did it come from?

The malicious code came from the plug-in that RE used for the human extinction survey.

I was just trying to go on the Diner a few moments and the site gives me the message: "This Account Has Been Suspended". Anyone know what is going on?

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Re: On Losing the Diner
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2015, 05:05:20 pm »
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I was just trying to go on the Diner a few moments and the site gives me the message: "This Account Has Been Suspended".

I'm getting the same problem and FTP is running but isn't logging in.
Since RE would have switched the DNS pointers for the "doomsteaddiner.net" domain to here if he had turned the ASO site off, I guess ASO did it.

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The malicious code came from the plug-in that RE used for the human extinction survey.

I don't think we know that for certain.  The lack of updating of WordPress from 4.0.5 to 4.2.2 is also a likely candidate.  There are definitely hackers that attack sites via known errors in WP.

Either way, we now have WP 4.2.2 and Harry said he had unplugged all the plugins, but we still seem to have a problem.  It is possible that something is lurking in the background of the webspace, probably a .php script.   Since there are 3 copies of WP (for /blog , /sun4living.com and /guymcphersen.com) anything could be going on.

I think this forum is powered by PHPBB3

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Re: On Losing the Diner
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2015, 05:26:23 pm »
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I think this forum is powered by PHPBB3

I mean SMF.

In case people haven't seen my last pearl of wisdom on the ASO site:
Now I have some deep and meaningful questions about the main folders/directories on the site.
Why is there a blog AND a forum?- they seem to be the same thing really.
Why is Sun4Living a separate thing? - it seems to have its own WordPress and SMF
What is guymcphersen.com ? - it seems to have its own WordPress and "forum"
Folders DoomersteadDiner.net, excelgymllc, grmtest, petero, sandbox all seem to be empty - are they dead?
Folder backup is inside public_html, when it doesn't belong there, it should be one level higher up, accessible only by FTP.

So there seems to be 3 copies of WordPress floating around in there, and quite a few robots.txt files as well - and no robots.txt at the top level, which is the only place it can do any good.

I appreciate this has all evolved over time, but it is a real mess at the moment.  I don't actually see the need for WordPress at all, but I could be wrong.

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Re: On Losing the Diner
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2015, 05:59:53 pm »
I should add that allowing Guest to post is a GHASTLY idea security-wise.  It should be switched off.

When I joined the Register User process was switched off and I had to contact RE directly.  This would be a big turn-off to most people.  Can Register User be turned back on?